Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1977-03-18
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- Grateful Dead
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SBDMR @ 7.5 ips> DAT> CD> EAC> SHN, with AUD patches; AUD portions:Â
Master (R. Bertrando Sony ECM-270/TC-152SD) Cassette> DAT> CD> EAC> SHN;
note skip or maybe reel flip d2t2 5:38; d3t3>4 track marker off by ~1:45;
d3t5, 'NFA', has an undocumented AUD splice from 14:20 to 15:06
- 2004-04-09 14:40:57
- San Francisco, CA
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- Winterland Arena
Subject: Mr. Hart brought me here.
Subject: Explaining 'Alhambra'
It's amazing that I can know so much Dead music, and still find gems like this that I didn't know existed: five stars just for the history and uniqueness.
This show appears to be the only one in which the boys played the more than typical live thing we call "Terrapin Station".
On the studio album, the song is called "Terrapin Station Part 1". I have a CD from the 80's that gives the timing of the individual parts of this piece. What they played in other concerts was almost always the first *three* parts — 'Lady with a Fan', 'Terrapin Station', and 'Terrapin'.
What they played in this concert, and which is labeled here 'Alhambra' is a barely recognizable 'Terrapin Transit', followed by 'At a Siding' up to just before where the lyrics start on the album. Then, what is labeled as 'Drums' includes a jam at the start which is the beginning of 'Terrapin Flyer' on the studio album.
Subject: grate show for sure but
Subject: sounds like GARCIA IS SAYING "PENIS"
Subject: Setting the record straight!
Now as far as "penis" controversy I'm undecided? I never noticed it before reading your comments but I must admit; whatever he is singing it isn't normal! I would refer you'll to the sometimes known as the "Rap" version in the studio version with Mickey Hart singing or rapping all of Hunter's lyrics with Steve Miller playing guitar! It might have been released on one of the collection albums like "So Many Roads" or another I'm not sure about that?
Despite that silliness, I'm certainly in agreement with those such as Arukamon & doug_the_dude and some others as well, who really know what they're talking about; yet it's not about our egos, it's about truth! Yes these versions of 1/2 Step, Sugaree are quite nice but I hate to say are not the best I've the best (indeed the one at the afore mentioned Swing is pretty good or Ventura '83 but my faqvorite is -1979-12-28(Fri) which has many totally mind blowing tune renditions) as well as that of 'Fernario' etc.. or even one of my Bob favorites 'It's All over Now' was much better in October '78 when I taped for my first time at Winterland! On the other hand indeed, 'Not Fade Away' is pretty darn hot yet even that I can think of several that are even more outrageous like U.C.S.B. my freshman year 1978-6-4(Sun) with the Hell's Angel's motorcycle for one is pretty rousing! However 'St. Stephen' here is indeed one of my favorite's although the only one I saw (therefore a tad biased) at U.C.L.A. the night before Winterland's closing has a unique jam where Garcia goes through the scale on the jam the opposite way he normally does! But here 'Around & Around' is totally out there!
In any case for the instrumental At a Siding part of Terrapin Station this show still deserves a 5 To bad I couldn't have gone!
Subject: I was there!
Set 1 - Start with All Over Now. The use of aud for entire tracks sometimes is a bit jarring - here the aud is light years from the quality of the show before, 2/27, so...and Half-Step is thoroughly mangled, so, again, if you get your deadhead undies in a bunch over this try 2/27's late-first set go at this ol' border epic.
But the rest of the set is dynamite beauty: Sugaree and Peggy-O are two peas in a golden pod, the first Svarlet > Fire matchup shaking itself into our universe with, again, quite creative attempts at remembering lyrics (and I don't know about that "penis" line, guys...)
Set 2 - wanders for a while, and Ship is again one of those full auds, so take it or leave it. Estimated is total robot cool, and This Terrapin is definitely a standard, one unique in its extended jam - I really wish they had tried the Transit > Siding portion more than just once - there are all kinds of acrobatics waiting to happen there!
Not Fade Away occupies the latter portion of the show - wow, just listen to Jer and Donna vocally as they wind it down - it just goes on and on! A&A's double-time finale is *seriously* rockin' here, too. The UJB encore? Lyrically all over the map - you're not missing much here.
So, a bit up-and-down, this one, but certainly not one you want to miss.
Subject: Out of Control
Sugaree is also more than worth the listen. It can pretty much speak for yourself why the dead was the greatest live band to ever play.
This would be a sick Daves Picks.
Subject: Remember it All So Well
Subject: Stuff overheard at a Dead show
A little tackier, but no less amazing is the show (76 in Portland maybe?) where a guy can be heard saying he'd like to F* Donna Godchaux while standing near the audience mic.
Subject: incredible Terrapin
Subject: Love This Show
This was one of the best of the 400 + shows that I attended.
Subject: Patch for gap in Fire
Subject: march 1977
We went all 3 nights the tickets just came to us. What fun. A day after the 3rd show I got my bike together and rode down the west coast and got a bus back east. My next show Cornell...
I can't help it if i'm lucky.
Subject: Best Sugaree, Peggy-O, Fire....
Somehow, the band was just in perfect form for this show, delivering with the powerful gentility that makes the Grateful Dead so unique among all bands. Phil's performance the entire night, but especially on Fire and Sugaree is simply extraordinary. Why was Phil so focused and more active than usual that night? We will likely never know, but his usual playing "lead" bass about 50% of the time was around 90% of the time on Mar 18th, 1977.
Personally, I think that Phil's outstanding work during this show was the catylist that got the whole band "hitting at 120%", and added that little extra something that makes the songs from this show so highly rated by so many.
No Dead collection can be complete without this show!
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Subject: this is the dead at its best...
I have listened to this over two evenings and there are noteworthy versions of so many different songs. So as not to just repeat what has already been stated, I will try to point out some of the distinctive moments that help to make this such a breathtaking show. The band, individually and as a unit, is ablaze the entire show. Note the way they repeatedly move from playing LOUD to playing ultra quiet within the same song. Jerry experiments with new approaches in virtually every song. Half step sounds totally new and different. Nothing is rushed. Towards the end of Sugaree the band enters a wild Jam as Keith takes his solo. Check out the Drums/Piano/Bass interaction that occurs. Extraordinary. Minglewood is unrestrained garage band rock and roll.
The stretch of songs in the second set, beginning with Terrapin and continuing through the Uncle John's encore is bedazzling. This is a band with many faces and many moods. Not Fade Away is the center piece in many ways. If you like Cornell then give this a listen as a worthy counterpoint. They move through different chapters, from the way back groove that starts the song to the Caution jam that climaxes with a Viola Lee like crescendo, to the beautifully quiet ending that reveals the 1st notes of Stephen like a sunrise on the beach! This is a deeply moving contribution to the universe. Jerry is so amped during Around that I had to turn the volume down. I can picture the mayhem that must have been the floor of Winterland as they drop it into over drive at the end. This show easily takes its place alongside the other storied shows from 1977 and any other year for that matter!
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Subject: From The First Note Forward
20 out of 5 stars.
And i can personally attest.
The band was ready to play.
Blazing all the way through.
Pete Townshend just standing there.
His jaw to the floor
"Ooooh, I gotta get this sound"
And there I was
Crying tears as drops of blood
Slain in the spirit
After the second.
Late in winter's
So carried away
Subject: The sweetest Sugaree of all!
Subject: Fools you are
Subject: Info on Alhambra...
The grateful dead lyric and song finder says the following:
Lyrics: Robert Hunter
Music: Mickey Hart
Hunter's "Box Of Rain" says these lyrics were "written to a Moorish setting composed by Mickey Hart that eventually evolved into a worldless melodic segment of Terrapin Station." That segment may be the swooping Jerry Garcia guitar line which forms part of "At A Siding" on the Terrapin Station CD (starting at 09.20). But this is not confirmed.
Subject: hmm. show gets five on epic uniqueness
Subject: Best Tour Ever!
P.S. whoever is responsible for taking away the ability to rip these soundboards deserves to go deaf.
Subject: Fire & Penis
Subject: yell Fire...but sing sweetly
I would go listen to 6-28-76 if you haven't already. Its a good appetizer for this rich course
Subject: JaMnM Review
Subject: help downloading
-A Grateful Listner
Subject: On the day that I was born...
Subject: Another Grate 1977 show
Trolling the comments, I don't see anyone commenting on the most obvious patch of all: The opening track. You can here the splice where the tune-up for Half Step starts.
And that leads to my only real beef: WTF is up with the markers on this set? The most egregious is the Terrapin > Alhambra > Drums > NFA. It should be: Terrapin > NFA. One could make a _weak_ argument that _part_ of drums should keep that tag (close inspection shows that it's really a couple of NFA false starts).
Arcane DeadHead Bitching Aside(tm), this is an outstanding show, an easy pick for the moderate fan to go to... A whole nutha level.
Subject: This is goood
Subject: Yee Haw!!
Prior to the downloads, I only had GD Hour chunks to listen to. Boy, have I been missing some great music.
There's much to enjoy over the course of 3 nights. Obviously, the new material at the time gets the most attention. It's great to hear Terrapin in it's infancy.
There's some sound issues here and there on all these recordings but for pure historical consideration, I'll give each show a solid 5. 1977 is highly fabled and for good reason.
Subject: Good stuff
I really enjoyed this show, it was solid all the way through, and fantastic at some points throughout. Excellent Mississippi 1/2 Step, Sugaree, Peggy-O, Brown-Eyed Woman & St. Stephen. Definitely one of the better shows for the amazing year of 1977.
Subject: A 5-star show
The Terrapin is notable for the extra portion, which is not called "Alhambra" but is actually called "At a Siding" on the studio album, but played here without words. It's also good Terrapin.
The Not Fade Away starts out with nice bounce similar to efforts of a few previous years, but with the addition of '77 guitar style. It then builds into something else, with Phil doing a brief Caution riff a la 1969. (An unfortunate patch here, but we're lucky that section isn't missing altogether.) It then falls back into the bouncy groove with nice vocal harmonies, sliding into a mellow, 1976-style St. Stephen. Beautious.
The raves of some of the other highlight in the previous reviews are spot-on as well.
this source has a missing section from fire (around 30 secs) which has fortunately been patched with the AUD tape. (see http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=13323 to get it from bt.etree and email me gcsadoti(at)yahoo(dot)com if it's dead). i have still yet to hear a complete sbd/aud compilation of nfa - it appears that there isn't a complete overlap between any sources (if someone knows of other sources, let me know). there is also a sbd source (likely from David Gans) with 'doctored' versions of both fire and nfa, which may be preferable to those who can't deal with the aud patches.
Subject: bad aud tape
Subject: Jerry's tone!
IMO, the sound quality here is better than any other Winterland show after the 10/74 run. 4.5 stars for show...5 stars for sound quality...rounds up to a 5 overall.
Subject: GRATE SHOW
Subject: Half step is the best ever no question LONG SHOW ****
Scarlet>fire has Phil on the fretless bass which is so sweet. Terrapin has the one and only ending the way they do it on the album right before Jerry goes into that fast Passenger like jam. Alhambra I do not think is correctly listed - This is played in '74 and sounds nothing like this, the spanish jam with the repititous scale. NFA craps out soundwise right at the peak of one of the best finales I have ever heard - it soars at 20.5 mins.
Sound defects drop this a point.
Subject: where's the AUD?
Subject: Firrrrrre cut :(
Subject: Sugaree Sugaree Sugaree
Subject: I can die happy now
Subject: Excellent show, but...
Subject: Sweet Fire
Subject: Sweet Fire
Subject: re: check swing
Subject: check swing
Subject: Scarlet Fire
Subject: Check the album...you'll see
People are too excited to use that title I think
That is not alahambra...it is just a complete performance of Terrapin, as on the album.
Not that that tears it down in anyway...but that's what is going on here.
The "Alhambra" at the end of "Terrapin" is beautiful, and should have been done again.
Subject: Great show...a classic